Elder Ramirez required that the Group provide advance written documentation as a prerequisite for proceeding with the next meeting. The Group promised to provide the desired document at the time of the next meeting, but Elder Ramirez continued to insist on having the document in advance. “All that I am asking is for you to submit to me a written outline of your objections to Pastor DeSilva’s proposal, so that we can continue with this process.”(1) Elder Ramirez provided no explanation of why he had to receive the document in advance rather than at the time of the meeting.
J) Elder Ramirez wronged us by adding burdensome and unnecessary conditions for proceeding with a process to which we have a right.
Elder Ramirez’s decision to require documentation in advance of the meeting demonstrated a clear double standard between what he expected of us and what he expected of himself. When the Group was in discussions with him regarding the initial “process meeting” we asked repeatedly for a more detailed description of the intended agenda. “Is there any particular of procedure that you wish to arrange which absolutely necessitates an in-person conversation?” “We are baffled by your continued insistence that there is yet more process to discuss, especially since you have yet to provide a specific list of what still needs to be resolved…the only thing which remains is for you to provide us with a list of specific aspects of process that you wish to discuss.”(2) These requests were ignored.
When Elder Ramirez first requested a description of our objections to serve as agenda for the next meeting we provided him with the following statement, “Regarding an agenda for the next meeting, we intend to address Pastor DeSilva's proposal point by point, explaining what we find objectionable and why and what we believe to be necessary for the implementation of an eventual solution.”(3) Despite this statement being far more detailed than those he provided to us Elder Ramirez was not satisfied with it, as stated above.
K) Elder Ramirez wronged us by requiring of us a different standard than he and the Potomac Conference were willing to meet.
(1) Email to Brother G dated Feb. 26, 2009, 11:48am
(2) Emails to Elder Ramirez dated Aug. 19, 2008, 1:04pm and Aug. 26, 2008, 10:31pm
(3) Email to Elder Ramirez dated Feb. 22, 2009, 6:53pm
Friday, January 22, 2010
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I can tell you Elder Ramirez has more decency, integrity and morality in his pinkie finger than you have in all your words on this website.
For real, get a grip on yourselves guys, or girls. Or maybe your just one person with an issue and you think your all important.
I am glad that such a man as Elder Ramirez is in leadership in the Conference along with Elder Miller, Elder Pichette and Elder Wilson. All of these men have been dragged through the mud by your blog and painted in a terrible light.
If you looked in the mirror, you would see YOU are the problem. You, and only YOU.
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