Tuesday, November 3, 2009

The Epic, Pt. 38

The “process” meeting between Elder Ramirez and Brother G took place on the afternoon of October 9, 2008. The meeting was two hours long, and consisted mostly of Elder Ramirez asking questions about the situation. These included, "Have you looked at Matthew 18?" That one absolutely flabbergasted us after the lengths to which we had already gone not only to follow Matthew 18 but to explain to the conference that we had followed it.

Elder Ramirez also asked whether the Group would be willing to sit down one-on-one with Pastor DeSilva to try to work things out. Brother G declined to speak for the Group, but observed that he didn't think it would do any good. Elder Ramirez also inquired whether things would be better at Takoma Park under new leadership. (The response given to that one was that although a change in leadership might be helpful, it would not completely resolve the problem, which was one of governance structure.)

Elder Ramirez acknowledged that we had the right to ask to appear before the executive committee, but didn't seem to understand why we would feel a need to. Brother G did not come away from the meeting with a firm commitment that we would be allowed to do so as yet. Elder Ramirez stated that his next step would be to meet with Pastor DeSilva and get his side of the story, after which he would contact us. The outside time limit he put on this was two weeks.

The appalling aspect of the meeting was that its content was exactly what Elder Ramirez had promised it would not be: issues. His explanation to Brother G was that before anyone could appear at the executive committee, the conference must go through the "process" of collecting information about why. To our way of thinking, however, Elder Ramirez lied to us, because the process of such data collection necessitated a discussion of what the issues were, which he swore would not be any part of this meeting.

Next: A Matter of Perspective

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4 comments:

Michael said...

This garbage is what makes me loathe the Internet. Someone gets a free blog and room to spout out garbage...

If you were to weigh on a scale your time spent obsessing and writing versus reading your Bible and spending time in devotions with God, which would be greater?

I guess the obsessing.

Why?

Because if you had spent greater time in the Word and time alone with God, you wouldn't press one key on the keyboard that would do to God's servants what has been done here by you. Your desire to be right gives the greatest transparency of your relationship with God; that of loving your principles more than God's.

Linda Sutton said...

Michael, if you loathe it so much, why is it that you continue to read and comment? It would appear that you are among those who are "obsessing."

Michael said...

I, like so many Americans, appreciate a train wreck.

Anonymous said...

Truth is not garbage! We learn from truth. And what I learn from spending time in the word is that God gives us all freedom. Anyone who would want to take that away is not living a life after God's plan. -k